Experts vs. investigators: My interview on the Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk hosts one of the longest-running and best-produced podcasts about leadership. It’s listened to by entrepreneurs, corporate managers, athletes, and driven people of all kinds. He’s featured guests ranging from NBA veteran JJ Redick to Facebook’s head of product design Julie Zhuo to authors like Dan Pink, Cal Newport, and Seth Godin. I was honored to appear on his show to discuss my book, Break the Wheel, as well as my interview techniques from hosting various podcasts and docuseries, my love of Anthony Bourdain’s storytelling (and why I feel his style needs to come to the world of B2B content), and more.

You can hear the full interview streaming on the show’s website, or check it out on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. I’ve also embedded the full interview below: